RWBYFanon v5
RPG Creations => AMA Section => Topic started by: Dr. Gustave on October 11, 2016, 04:10:30 AM
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Want to know something about how we do Worldbuild? Want to know what you should do? Want to know how I feel about certain WB aspects? Feel free to ask them here.
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So how 'bout that advanced science fiction technology?
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Alllllllllllllllllllllllright, everyone. I get it, I do. Super tech is cool and fun. But you can't have it. You know why? Because 90% of the time, you haven't been around enough to prove you can be trusted with it. Super tech is basically anything that outshines tech from the kingdoms, and in some cases even Atlas. Do you know why Vox gets a pass? Because he's been here over three years and writes hard science fiction for a living. I've been here just as long and am the head of worldbuilding but guess what? Alapelagias won't have supertech. You don't need supertech to have an interesting location, you need good writing to have an interesting location. Worldbuilding isn't about measuring who has has the most powerful toys in some sort of dick measuring contest, it's about creating pathways for storytelling.
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SPEHSS COLONOSCOPY SPACE COLONIES WHEN?
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NO. SPACE.
YES. I know that just because Dust doesn't work outside of the atmosphere doesn't mean OTHER fuel sources don't.
NO. That doesn't mean you can have any space stuff. No satellites. No orbital cannons. No nothing. If you want an in universe explanation uh.... If we go into space, the moon destroys Remnant.
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Nanites?
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Teleporters?
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I'm gonna slit your throa I'm glad you asked such a common and helpful question. No.
No nanites.
Teleporters? Teleporters are just suicide booths. Why would we allow that?
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... There are a VERY few exceptions to that.
But you've got some 'SPLAININ' to do if you use those.
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Inquisition WB when?
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That's not what this thread is about.
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Up to which (probably vague) point is tech not super tech? Do things like Pilorum barriers count?
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Pilum's barriers are less high technology and more an extension of their evil shit. That falls under their auratech.
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Tech becomes super tech when it exceeds Atlas. Obviously, some placed put more focus on tech than, say, Vale, but once it exceeds public Atlas tech, it's a problem.
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So reproducing some form of barrier/'force field' that's got a set limit of damage absorption (which happens to be reasonable) is a no-go?
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You can have barriers, but they have to have a damage limit.
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Ok here's a ok question, what are limits for worldbuilding for when it comes to a few things.
1.Grimm
2.Civilizations
3.Transportation
Is there a thread where we can submit Grimm ideas? I think there was one on the previous board is there a reason we got rid of it?
Can we make dead but long dead ancient civilizations? These are places where you cannot get any tech surpassing Atlas but may make for a good learning opportunity for many characters. Of course the civilizations of today's Remnant need to come from somewhere. I think it would be interesting to see how the more primal civilizations of Remnant would have used dust to change how they evolved differently from ours. (of course everything is non-cannon but that's why this is a fanon website)
Can things such as submarines, airships, and other vehicles that are not mentioned with Atlas be allowed? It's not explicitly mentioned but I do believe that it is in the realm of possibility to be so.
Final note when we contact a mod to make a world build do we need a response for a "green-light"? (Because I think I sent you one but I didn't know If i needed to wait for a response.)
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I actually finished setting up the Grimm catalog today! You can find it here http://rwby-rpg.rwbyfanon.com/index.php/topic,497.0.html
Dead but long dead? In terms of dead civilizations you don't really need to make WBs for them, as they have no real affect on the world currently. Just make sure you don't do anything crazy.
Yes, Subs, different kinds of airships, land vehicles, you can take those fro granted. That being said, you have to remember the threat of Grimm when you make them. For example, a sub would have to either outspeed or outgun underwater Grimm. Airships as well for avian Grimm.
You do not need a green light, it is mostly so we can keep track.
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Thoughts on Pilum as a whole as a Worldbuild Head and as a character author?
Can I ask wether or not specific techs are supertech in this thread? I somehow goofed up while following the previous related answer and figured it could serve others as well.
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Well it's no secret that Pilum hasn't been publicly released yet, so I can't completely comment on it. That being said, I have been here just as long as Vox and I've gone through a rainbow of thoughts on it. When I originally joined, all I knew was Leo was from there, and Leo was basically immune to everything. So, I hated it. But now, now that I've read and been a part of threads involving it and now that I've seen a bit of what it actually is, I can say that it's a well though out WB. And that's no surprise, Vox is a professional writer. He writes hard science fiction for a living, and he knows how to make a Worldbuild.
I suppose you can. If nothing else, it lets others know.
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Considering that the White Fang is an international organization, I assume that, like Kingdoms, it is unsurpassable.
What is the largest allowable size that an organization can be in broad terms?
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Probably domestic only organizations. Inquisition is a bit of an exception because not all of it under one rule, it's more of an idea, though some people group up as "The Inquisition". But in general, just organizations that only take place in Mistral or only take place in Vale.
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How about one that is primarily based in one capitol city but has a handful of people in each of the other kingdoms' capitols mostly to keep an eye on things? Fine or pushing it?
Also forgot to ask before but general thoughts on religion(s)? Worthwhile to even create since they're more conceptual than physical? I assume only small scales ones would be allowable as well.
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Pushing it, but you're a trusted member, so you're mostly fine.
You can make religions, they just can't be true. As far as we know, the only powers that be are the Wizard and the Maidens, which for now don't exist here (Mostly because we don't want to mess with that)
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Are coilguns (more accurately, mass drivers, since you could probably do something of the sorts with Gravity Dust) okay, within the ranges of the believable - that is, more like normal firearms than uber-cannons that fit in your pocket?
Are hypersonic aircrafts okay?
Would having an automated field medic with a purely programmed AI capable of limited flight and performing emergency surgeries be okay?
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Are coilguns (more accurately, mass drivers, since you could probably do something of the sorts with Gravity Dust) okay, within the ranges of the believable - that is, more like normal firearms than uber-cannons that fit in your pocket?
We can build side-arm grade coilguns NOW.
Are hypersonic aircrafts okay?
No.
Would having an automated field medic with a purely programmed AI capable of limited flight and performing emergency surgeries be okay?
The medical knowledge and deductive reasoning required to perform medicine is so far beyond the CCT AI it's ridiculous, and that's hosted in a large building. Not only no, but HELL NO.
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Electrolasers with a range of about 100 m, tops?
Thermobarics - or Dust-fueled equivalents, not surpassing the FOAB?
High-tech explosives like octaazacubane (using the predicted mass density of 2.69g/mL)?
Retroviral gene therapy?
Biocybernetic nerve/computer couplings without using Dust, such as with a prosthetic arm, but working as well as if it used Dust?
Hover tanks?
Airborne propulsion systems that don't directly consume Dust as a fuel source?
EDIT: Quantum computers? If yes, what maximum 'size'?
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Electrolasers with a range of about 100 m, tops?
Those were used by the Beacon Guard pre-reboot to take down Aoife, but it depends how much juice you want to pump down that plasma channel.
Thermobarics - or Dust-fueled equivalents, not surpassing the FOAB?
Yes.
High-tech explosives like octaazacubane (using the predicted mass density of 2.69g/mL)?
No. Eat a dick.
Retroviral gene therapy?
No. Eat several dicks.
Biocybernetic nerve/computer couplings without using Dust, such as with a prosthetic arm, but working as well as if it used Dust?
Until we know how Ironwood's arm works, cyberwear is in an iffy place without alternate means. So soft no, with an admonishment to cover all of your bases and keep the workings vague if you decide to take a swing at it anyway.
And also, dust is an energy propellant that handwaves some physics concerns, not magic rocks, it'd only factor into the limb as a power source. If you don't even pay attention to the mechanics of the source material, your worldbuilds are doomed from the start. Use your goddamn brain and devote some of that google time to what Dust is.
Hover tanks?
If you think you can justify the need and use of armor elements, yes, if they're using Dust, because if you try to weasel your way into skiffy gravity control, I'm banning you from worldbuilding. You get three strikes on Islium's shit.
Airborne propulsion systems that don't directly consume Dust as a fuel source?
Extremely low-tech only.
EDIT: Quantum computers? If yes, what maximum 'size'?
Not only no. Not only hell no. Full on FUCK OFF.
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Mistral WB that is essentially a massive hub for traders and customers alike, being able to buy goods and services alike, even if they're not "publicly available"?
Manned bi-pedal walkers?
Multi-form prosthetic? (Think Deus Ex)
Do kingdoms (apart from obvious Atlas) have armies? I would assume so because Atlas Military Airships seem to have weapons designed for use against people, rather than Grimm.
Lastly, but not leastly:
Nuclear Weaponry and Nuclear Power Plants.
BEAR WITH ME ON THAT LAST ONE.
If we assume that Remnant is pretty much Earth with magic and shit, we can assume that elements are similar too. Since we have MANY nuclear isotopes available to us, wouldn't it also be assumed that nuclear fission has been achieved, at least in the use of power generation?
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Mistral WB that is essentially a massive hub for traders and customers alike, being able to buy goods and services alike, even if they're not "publicly available"?
I'm not sure what you're asking. If you're asking if we're going to make a full WB post for Mistral, then no. People have to go off of what the show gives and the small supplemental material we made here (http://rwby-rpg.rwbyfanon.com/index.php/topic,224.msg773.html#msg773). Though I will be moving the location of Mistral on the map.
Manned bi-pedal walkers?
Like a Paladin? You'd better have a good reason for having it and it'd better not be as good as a Paladin. Atlas is the upper limit for raw tech.
Multi-form prosthetic? (Think Deus Ex)
Unlikely, you'd need to explain it really well. In canon, Mercury's were just legs and he still wore shotgun boots and Ironwood's arm is, as far as we know, just an arm. In our canon, Alapelagias has the me "advanced" prosthetics but only in the sense that they're also weapons.
Do kingdoms (apart from obvious Atlas) have armies? I would assume so because Atlas Military Airships seem to have weapons designed for use against people, rather than Grimm.
Mistral, Vacuo, and Vale all have militias, but not a proper military. They all used to have military's in canon and site canon but they all dissolved after the Greyed War with the exception of Atlas.
Nuclear Weaponry and Nuclear Power Plants.
BEAR WITH ME ON THAT LAST ONE.
If we assume that Remnant is pretty much Earth with magic and shit, we can assume that elements are similar too. Since we have MANY nuclear isotopes available to us, wouldn't it also be assumed that nuclear fission has been achieved, at least in the use of power generation?
Hard no. As far as we've been shown, it's all Dust. Until we're shown otherwise, NO nuclear anything. Nuclear opens a whole can of worms the WB team is not willing to deal with.
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Yet more questions, how bothersome.
What is the most powerful non-thermobaric chemical explosive that is allowed for common use (example: HE rounds), wether in actual form or Dust equivalent?
Are jet turbines/engines which use electric arcs as a heat source instead of fuel or Dust too high-tech? If yes, does that mean that the "extremely low-tech only" previously mentioned for aircraft engines basically stands for "fans of whatever type only"?
What is the allowed use of weapons akin to Penny's Spinning Swords Beam Attack? If allowed (even if only marginally), would they have to directly consume Dust?
EDIT: What about regenerating organs by procedures such as 3D printing, applying powdered extracellular matrix, etc.?
EDITWO: While I'm at it, what would be a general limit on biotech?
EDITHREE: In terms of medical robots, would a drone with an AI 'capable of pretty much only stopping excessive bleeding, internal or external', be acceptable? Or is that still beyond the realm of the CCT AI?
FOUREDIT: How about quantum encryption, where the encryption and decryption keys are series of quantum objects? (Of course, this means that the encryption and decryption keys must be physically delivered, but makes attempts at interception mildly useless)
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When I talk about Manned Bi-Pedal Vehicles, I'm not talking about Mechs like the Paladins, but rather weapon platforms like the Sentinels from Warhammer 40K or the ATSTs from Star Wars. From the looks of their designs, they'd be relatively easy to make when comparing them to the Paladins.
On the same topic, would something like the D-Walker from MGS5 be allowed?
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Limit for materials technology excluding hardlight in Remnant? For example: carbyne, graphene, nanomaterials?
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Would WBs be forced into editing if an event were significant enough to mandate it? For example, if Plains existed in show, the luring of Grimm to Vale/Beacon would have certainly shaken things up in the Build.
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Yet more questions, how bothersome.
Yet more temptation to limit any further attempts at a worldbuild from you to bronze age technology.
What is the most powerful non-thermobaric chemical explosive that is allowed for common use (example: HE rounds), wether in actual form or Dust equivalent?
Depends on application.
Are jet turbines/engines which use electric arcs as a heat source instead of fuel or Dust too high-tech? If yes, does that mean that the "extremely low-tech only" previously mentioned for aircraft engines basically stands for "fans of whatever type only"?
Let me put it in a way you can get through your thick fucking skull:
You can use dust, or you can use a fucking hang glider.
What is the allowed use of weapons akin to Penny's Spinning Swords Beam Attack? If allowed (even if only marginally), would they have to directly consume Dust?
Not allowed on Penny's small scale without dickery, and you have been told repeatedly that no you may not have high non-dust technology so what the fuck do you THINK the answer to "would they have to directly consume Dust" would be, you fucking moron?
What about regenerating organs by procedures such as 3D printing, applying powdered extracellular matrix, etc.?
How you phrase it? No.
While I'm at it, what would be a general limit on biotech?
Depends how you go about it, and the technology base the worldbuild is descended from.
In terms of medical robots, would a drone with an AI 'capable of pretty much only stopping excessive bleeding, internal or external', be acceptable? Or is that still beyond the realm of the CCT AI?
You're not getting medical robots.
How about quantum encryption, where the encryption and decryption keys are series of quantum objects? (Of course, this means that the encryption and decryption keys must be physically delivered, but makes attempts at interception mildly useless)
Not only no. Not only hell no. Full on FUCK OFF.
You're not getting your non-dust technology powerhouse no matter how you fucking wiggle. Keep wasting my fucking time, and we'll do that bronze age thing.
When I talk about Manned Bi-Pedal Vehicles, I'm not talking about Mechs like the Paladins, but rather weapon platforms like the Sentinels from Warhammer 40K or the ATSTs from Star Wars. From the looks of their designs, they'd be relatively easy to make when comparing them to the Paladins.
On the same topic, would something like the D-Walker from MGS5 be allowed?
There's no hard, "no bipedal robots" but you'll be under very close scrutiny if you're not Atlas.
Limit for materials technology excluding hardlight in Remnant? For example: carbyne, graphene, nanomaterials?
No solid limit, but you're going to be under intense scrutiny. Also, Nathan's warning about bronze age technology applies to you, too.
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Hypothetically, yes. But something that forces someone unrelated to edit their character or WB shouldn't happen.