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Re: Making a Scene (Open)
« Reply #15 on: September 28, 2016, 06:54:49 AM »
Sigurd pulled the blow and retracted his leg, realising too late that the lunatic had actually intended to block it head on, and that if he'd just thought to activate the second phase he'd have ended his opponent in a single blow. Whatever. Too much thinking. He let himself drop to the ground, turning over and bringing his other leg around into a sweep.



[OOC: Okay, this is going to be pretty long for an OOC comment, but there are a lot of problems that need addressing.

Firstly, while I understand what you're trying to achieve with the whole 'pretending to be in a different year' thing, you're doing it completely wrong. When your character speaks he can say whatever he wants, which is why when he introduced himself as a 'third year Beacon student' it wasn't a problem. However, you can not. When your character lies, it's part of the roleplay; but when you lie, it's misleading and confusing. Outside the perspective of the character, you're supposed to write about what's truthfully happening.


Secondly, you're completely misunderstanding both your own character and mine, and thus the power balance of this fight. Galileo is a short, weedy guy who is often mistaken for a girl. He is many things, such as astrologer, astronomer, magician and fortune teller- warrior is only one of them. He has been training as one for between a decade and half a decade, closer to half if anything, and has not been training with outstanding dedication because he has a number of other things which he does in parallel.

Sigurd is a big, tough guy. He has about 30 kilos and 7 inches over Galileo, which in a fight is huge. He is a highly skilled martial artist, who has been training for about fifteen years. With no other hobbies or interests to spend his time on, literally all he ever does is train. I'd be willing to bet that he does more of it in a single year than your character has done in all his time at Beacon. Even accounting for his physical disability he has more experience, more training, and a better physique than Galileo. Likewise, you seem to be under the impression that Sigurd is a dumb brute; which is not the case. He is not slow, but of average speed, and although he may be headstrong there's nothing in his profile to suggest he is in any way unintelligent.

Realistically, Galileo is hopelessly outmatched. Being extremely generous, he might be able to fight as an equal. But there's  no way in hell he can toy with Sigurd the way you have him doing. Which brings me to another point.


I've read Galileo's profile, and I understand that you're just trying to work with his fighting style. However, that style of playing with his opponent will only work when he's against a fighter less skilled than himself. If he tries it against someone more skilled, he's going to get himself torn to pieces within a few seconds. This is not just a problem with Sigurd. Your character is pretty weak by the standards of a Beacon student, especially for a fourth year, and you'll probably have a hard time finding someone it will work against.

Now, another thing you don't seem to understand is just how strong Sigurd is. I'd have thought it would be obvious by now with all the clues we've been dropping- the ground shaking when he strikes Yngvarr, Yngvarr referring to him as inhuman, and Sigurd himself thinking that if Galileo doesn't take things seriously he's genuinely going to die- but perhaps all of that was not enough. Galileo can not block his kick like that. If he did, Sigurd would break his arm and send that cane flying off into the distance. I've had to write around that, because I didn't want it to happen, but I could just as easily have let it go.

To simplify, you're completely misunderstanding the way this fight plays out. You're overestimating Galileo, and underestimating Sigurd.]

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Re: Making a Scene (Open)
« Reply #16 on: September 28, 2016, 09:29:14 AM »
(OOC: Next time put that in PM, it becomes a bother to readers when they see something really long and not important to them. Its okay for short ones)

Galileo did not expect the sweep and fell over. He laughed and held his stomach as he continued laughing. Then he stopped abruptly.
"That was fun, now its my turn!" Galileo rolled behind Sigurd and picked up his two balls. He loads dust into his cane and shows a sadistic smile. " I'm more than meets the eye, Beacon knows that, I may seem weak, I've seen that look in people's eyes when I was younger. Galileo is weak, Galileo is just a girly boy. People make that mistake don't worry." The balls started going into psychedelic colors.

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Re: Making a Scene (Open)
« Reply #17 on: September 28, 2016, 11:04:10 AM »
(OOC: to directly quote Gus,
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On Combat Prowess: If your character is a first year student at Beacon, their skill level should reflect them being a first year at Beacon Academy. A 4th year should have an advantage against you, and a graduate should have an even larger one.
Three more years of learning should put Galileo on a somewhat advantageous position. Just not so much that he can actually toy with Sigurd. No matter what he hopefully can't one shot a fourth year because that's just overpowered, what chance does we year 1s have if that's the case? If there's someone who can do that, it will be Nathan, but with almost all of his aura doing about 600% aura damage.
Or we can have Gus GM as a last resort...)
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Re: Making a Scene (Open)
« Reply #18 on: September 28, 2016, 12:11:13 PM »
(OOC: Ok so the point you are making is valid in certain circumstances. A fourth year student definitely has an advantage in certain areas. But there are many ways it doesn't help so much.

Sigurd has been training from a very young age, and the vast majority of his time is spent training. He has therefore gained a vast amount of combat experience and skill in that time.

Galileo has been training from (as far as I can tell from the profile) at most 13. If we assume that Sigurd was training from the age of 8 (though Neon tells me it's earlier than that we'll assume it was then for argument's sake) he still has 5 years on Galileo. Galileo's profile says he is 20. Sigurd is 19. So, by simple maths we can figure out Sigurd has been training 11 years, at least. Galileo has been training 7, at most. Sigurd has spent far more time training. If we were to calculate the no. Of hours each had been spent training Sigurd's number would be astronomically higher than Galileo.

Beacon Academy teaches combat. Lets assume that training at Beacon occurs faster than training alone, as it is being taught by trained professionals. So Galileo catches up a bit there, but he is limited by his practice as an astronomer, magician, etc, while Sigurd spends most of his time while he is awake training.

Beacon teaches combat techniques and tactics. While a character would naturally gain strength and speed at Beacon, these are not the traits most practiced. Sigurd has dedicated a huge amount of time to building his strength. His strength is practically inhuman. Galileo is portrayed as, while not weak, not especially strong for a Beacon student. When a student with strength like Galileo attempts to block someone with a strength like Sigurd, the weaker person will break. Sigurd is not weaker just because he is in a lower year. Galileo's only chance to prevent Sigurd's attacks are either by dodging or using his semblance/ aura.

I mentioned earlier that Beacon teaches combat techniques rather than traits such as strength and speed. Galileo's primary advantage on Sigurd would be these techniques and tactics. However so far he has not been shown to use ANY of these at all. I think it is safe to say that without them the odds are HUGELY stacked against him.

TL;DR: Sigurd has spent much more time training despite only having been at Beacon 1 year.

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Re: Making a Scene (Open)
« Reply #19 on: September 28, 2016, 04:59:32 PM »
(OOC: I personally PMed Neon about the issue, but I should express one thing, you seem to be focusing too much on what Sigurd can do to overpower Galileo, and not what Galileo can do to overpower Sigurd. Of you compare the fighting styles of the two, Sigurd would rush forward and you know pound everyone. Galileo on the other hand wants to mess with your head, make you underestimate him, which is why he does things that seem odd, something he is good at. I'm sure you can interpretate that from reading how Galileo fights, why would someone fight like that? Its the brain of a martial artist against the brain of someone who knows how the brain would work.)
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Re: Making a Scene (Open)
« Reply #20 on: September 28, 2016, 06:05:19 PM »
(OOC: Wow this has really gone off the rails lol. Had a few drinks so if some of this doesn't make sense that's why.

I completely understand what you're going for. I'm not advocating that Sigurd can beat Galileo hands down. Hell, if we already knew the outcome of the fight it would be bloody boring. What I pointed out was that Galileo has not used any of those techniques
He hasn't really tred to play with Sigurd's mind at all. All he has done so far is dodge and block Sigurd's attacks, and considering Galileo shouldn't be able to block the attacks he should be on the back foot.

I don't mean to insult here. If anything I have said has seemed aggressive that's not what I intended to put across. All I want is for you to understand how powerful an opponent Sigurd is, regardless of what year he is. Galileo should not be able to just toy with Sigurd, especially with things like "he sidesteps". It'seems boring to read, and realistically wouldn'the have a chance of stopping Sigurd.

Again, if some of this just seems like useless babble I'll talk again in the morning :)

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Re: Making a Scene (Open)
« Reply #21 on: September 28, 2016, 08:38:49 PM »
(OOC: Let this be a lesson to all of us, we sometimes don't know what is in the head of to others(in this case me) that we sometimes misunderstanding intentions and actions which ends up confusing and sometimes outright making something boring. I do sincerely apologize that so far it seems out of hand and I have given you all a bad impression)
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Re: Making a Scene (Open)
« Reply #22 on: September 30, 2016, 05:34:44 AM »
(OOC:So what now? Does the fight goes on?)
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Re: Making a Scene (Open)
« Reply #23 on: September 30, 2016, 06:11:10 AM »
(OOC: afaik it will, but I'm waiting for Neon)

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Re: Making a Scene (Open)
« Reply #24 on: October 01, 2016, 02:18:03 PM »
"Oh, good," Sigurd replied as, at the first scent of bloodlust, something buried deep within seemed to raise its head. He smirked predatorily, freshly filled with eagerness. "I was wondering when you'd drop the act."

He coiled back onto his shoulders, then sprung forwards and jackknifed up to his feet. Once more he settled into a neutral stance. Now, what are you going to do next? His eyes narrowed, and he gauged the distance between the two of them. Could he close it in time? Probably not, in the first phase. It all depended on how well his opponent could move.

He let the matter go, dropping his centre of mass and settling his weight towards his rear leg. Only one way to find out. He launched himself back towards his opponent.


(OOC: Sorry, was away for a while. Problem resolved; let us continue.)

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Re: Making a Scene (Open)
« Reply #25 on: October 01, 2016, 09:59:28 PM »
(OOC: I'll get to posting with Galileo once his edits are approved
Edit: He is done)

Galileo threw Crux's sheathe aside and pointed the blade's dangerous sharp end at Sigurd. The balls became more psychedelic, more hypnotic as the colors swished about in spirals circles zigzags. An outline of random colors surrounded Galileo, obviously it was clear that Galileo's aura never had one color, it had many. He spreads his feet apart as he watched Sigurd come in close. He hopped back and unleashed a swift flurry of pokes.
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Re: Making a Scene (Open)
« Reply #26 on: October 02, 2016, 05:53:40 PM »
Finally, this battle was beginning to get interesting. With the magician finally standing up to the fight Yngvarr began to cheer loudly for Sigurd. "Do it for the team, dude'" he was shouting.

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Re: Making a Scene (Open)
« Reply #27 on: October 05, 2016, 12:28:20 PM »
Combined with the force of Sigurd's own momentum, the rapid thrusts were enough to repeatedly crack the breastplate of his armour. He managed to get in range, and punched out towards the other boy just as one of the stabs was able to penetrate his armour, cutting through his still-weakened aura and carving a line across his bare chest. Sigurd ignored the pain and continued the blow, knowing he'd come out on top if it came down to an exchange of blows.

(OOC: I wrote my response on a 3500ft summit, in 100mph winds, looking down at the beautiful Snowdonian landscape. It was a lovely response with elegant prose, wonderful characterisation, and a fleshed out and detailed narrative. I felt very proud of it. Then I hit the preview button and my shitey laptop went and crashed on me.

It's a pile of crap, but I've written this out in order to let the thread continue. I'll go back and rewrite it properly when I have the energy/motivation)

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Re: Making a Scene (Open)
« Reply #28 on: October 05, 2016, 12:32:57 PM »
(OOC: I know how that feels. Don't get discouraged too much...)
Catalina is getting more and more excited as he can watch some spectacular exchange with aura shapes hopefully flying everywhere.
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Re: Making a Scene (Open)
« Reply #29 on: October 05, 2016, 05:49:42 PM »
Sigurd knew how to throw punches, but Galileo was nimble, qiuck as the fiddle on a professional fiddlist, dodging the punches like leaves floating in the wind.  The balls that were floating next to him blocked punches and cracked started forming across their surface. He hopped back, a click in his step from the heels of his shoes. He rolled and grabbed his sheathe, the balls flying around Sigurd like a flock of butterflies, but just alot more annoying. Galileo puts his sword hilt in and makes the hilt perpendicular to the sheathe. It was not long till the shapes of flying metal stars flew towards Sigurd's direction.

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